When Ernest Malone began his firefighting career, he never could have predicted he'd become the chief of the Indianapolis Fire Department. Every day, people look to him for guidance and answers. In this episode of The ROI Podcast, Chief Malone explains the secret to his success, and how those seeking advancement in their life can achieve greatness with the proper mindset.

Show Notes: 0:03 I don't want you to lead by showing examples of your power, I want you to lead by showing the power of your example. 0:17 Introduction to The ROI Podcast presented by The Kelley School of Business on the IUPUI Campus located in downtown Indianapolis. 0:46 For the past several weeks, the focus of the ROI Podcast has been about leadership, documenting graduates of the Randall L. Tobias Leadership Center's Fellows Program. 2:04 Today's guest is Chief Ernest Malone, who has been with the Indianapolis Fire Department for more than 30 years. 3:15 Chief Malone encourages people to take lateral moves in their career because of the experience you gain and the connections you make. 4:31 Chief Malone says you can learn from everyone around you. You don't have to only learn from successful leaders or people, but you can learn from those who have failed at times. 5:48 Chief Malone says by leading by example, you gain credibility and loyalty. 6:48 Be people-focused while staying data-driven. 7:20 Chief Malone is a graduate of the Fellows program. He explained how he confirmed leadership is everywhere you look, mentioning his experiences while in the program. 8:46 Chief Malone says to keep an open mind, and be receptive to experiences that you can learn from. 10:00 Shane Simmons and Julie Manning Magid wrap-up this episode of The ROI Podcast.